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itrain 5 and the new type block "turnout "

Posted by oups65 on 2021-04-07 09:01

He,
i am using ITRAIN 5.0.10
I have difficulties to understand how to use the new type block call « Turnout ».
the manual says : « A background block of the type ‘Turnout’ and the same name as the turnout can be used as an alternative to using relays to feed turnouts. »
my questions : how to ?
a/ where to put this special block : inside the layout and connected to the turnout or separately without any turnout layout connection ?
b/parameters for this "turnout" bloc :
interface : « Dinamo (RM-U/C ) ??
adress : any TM44 free adress or nothing or ??
c/ how it will work as no feedback is involved into this speudo bloc or do I have to insert at least one feedback contact in ITRAIN ?

Many thanks and have a nice day ...it's snowing in Belgium :-)
Philippe

the turnout :
https://zupimages.net/viewer.php?id=21/14/oiq3.jpg
the bloc type "turnout"
https://zupimages.net/up/21/14/qsp2.jpg

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Posted by oups65 on 2021-04-07 14:14

here enclosed are three versions (ITRAIN V5.0.10):
version 1 : the special bloc "turnout" is connected to the turnout, using TM44 (?)
version 2 : the special bloc "turnout" + one retro "turnout" are connected to the turnout, using TM44 + OC32/N
version 3 : the special bloc turnout is NOT connected to the turnout, using or not TM44 (?)

For these 3 versions, one bloc of one TM44 is sacrified.

Hope this will clarify my question : which one or any other one is correct ?

Philippe

test bloc turnout.tcdz (4.49 Kb)

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Posted by Leon van Perlo on 2021-04-12 22:37 Netherlands

Hello Philippe,

Sorry, it took me some time to try to understand your question.

In this example you don't use an additional block for the turnout. The turnout can always be "connected" to block 3 and there should be no block separation at the right side of the turnout, since there is never a block separation at the "sharp side" of any turnout.

Best regards,
Leon

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Posted by Martin Domburg on 2021-04-12 22:52 Netherlands

Hi,

It is true what Leon writes. This option can only be used when you have a single- or double-slip turnout or two turnouts with the sharp edge (the switch) against each other. Because you isolate a switch at the transition to a new block (i.e. at the point) you create a de-energized area, the switches are not powered by a block.

The tarditional way is to feed the turnouts via a relay. The relay then chooses between 2 blocks from which the block voltage is drawn.

https://domburgtrainsupport.com/tutorials" class="wiki wikinew text-danger tips">See this tutorial

Another option is to use a block output to power the currentless section. In that case, you take a free block output and connect the turnout to A and B0 of that output. Make sure the same A and the same B are connected to the turnout.

iTrain will then drive the block at the same time as the turnout and so you will feed the turnout with the correct voltage. Because you call the block (type of turnout) the same as the actual turnout iTrain understands that it has to switch that block.

Greetings

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Posted by oups65 on 2021-04-13 09:02

thank you very much for your two answers which fully cover the questions.
ik wens je een goede dag :-)
Philippe

ps for Martin Domburg.: Logged in as: « oups65 » but displays : « Error You do not have permission to edit this page »

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